Palisades Fire

Palisades Fire: Weather Report and Analysis

Unprecedented Failure, Not Unprecedented Conditions: Palisades Fire Proven to Result Not from Climate Change, but from Negligence and Incompetence

This report concludes that the January 7, 2025 Pacific Palisades fire occurred under historically typical, predictable, and manageable weather conditions, contrary to false public claims of unprecedented or unmanageable factors. Analysis of data from 48 weather stations shows wind speeds were well below hurricane thresholds and did not trigger high wind warnings; drought conditions aligned with normal Southern California climate cycles; and multiple agencies issued accurate early fire weather forecasts. These facts directly refute misleading narratives that extreme conditions caused the fire’s spread. The only unprecedented aspect was the failure to contain the fire despite ample warnings and manageable conditions.

According to the federal government's Fire Environment Mapping System (FEMS), of their 423 weather stations throughout California, the highest recorded wind speed on January 7, 2025, was only 58 mph, which was recorded by the CLAR station in Laurel Mountain, CA, approximately 108.65 miles from the Palisades Fire.

To date, there is no evidence to support the false claim of "100 mile per hour winds" or "hurricane force winds" occurring on January 7, 2025 within 100 miles of the Palisades Fire.

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Prologue

This analysis and report, written by Michael Kureth, refutes and disproves the false narrative that “hurricane-force” winds justified the failure observed on January 7, 2025. In fact, no weather station within a 20-mile radius of the Palisades Fire recorded hurricane-force winds on that day. Additionally, the majority of weather stations within that range recorded normal wind speeds from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., which have been further corroborated by witness videos. By presenting verified weather station data (not just witness statements or assumptions), this report proves that the wind speeds on January 7 do not constitute a valid excuse for failure. To date, no evidence has been presented by any individual or agency showing that wind speeds reached hurricane force at any time on January 7.

Interactive Wind Speed and Gust Map

The interactive map below presents wind speed and gust data observed on January 7, 2025, during the Palisades Fire. This map visualizes meteorological conditions and Cal Fire's fire data between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., the critical window during which the fire could have been contained.

Using the fire’s origin point at latitude 34.07022 and longitude -118.54453, 48 nearby weather stations with wind data were included to provide localized insight into wind speed and gusts through an interactive timeline. 14 stations that did not report weather data during this period were excluded to maintain accuracy and clarity.

Excluded stations: KCAAGOUR101, KCACALAB72, KCAENCIN812, KCALOSAN1130, KCAMALIB110, KCAMALIB140, KCAMALIB147, KCAMALIB162, KCAPACIF132, KCAPACIF208, KCAPACIF227, KCAPACIF320, KCAPACIF367, and KCATOPAN31.

Summary

Purpose of the Report
This report critically examines the weather conditions surrounding the January 7, 2025 Pacific Palisades fire to assess whether claims of unmanageable, unprecedented, or climate change driven conditions are supported by factual data. Drawing from 48 regional weather stations, historical wind records, drought trends, and official forecasts, the analysis finds that the fire occurred under conditions that were historically consistent, predictable, and well within the thresholds of manageable wildfire behavior. Climate change had no demonstrable impact on this specific event, as both the wind patterns and drought conditions align with long-established Southern California climate cycles. Contrary to public assertions, the fire did not burn under hurricane-force winds, nor did it unfold during a record-breaking drought. By analyzing environmental data, including wind speeds, historical comparisons, drought frequency, and the availability of early warnings, this report aims to provide a data-driven foundation for evaluating the emergency response and policy accountability surrounding the event.

Wind Conditions During Peak Fire Spread Were Manageable
On January 7, 2025, wind conditions near Pacific Palisades were not unprecedented and remained well within manageable limits based on historical data from 48 weather stations across the region. During the critical period of potential containment from 10:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. (6 hours), when Cal Fire reported the fire expanding from 10 to 200 acres, weather conditions remained manageable. The highest sustained wind speed was 35.7 mph in Malibu (8.6 miles from the fire origin), with the highest gust reaching 44 mph in the Santa Monica Mountains (14.4 miles away from the fire origin) (Section 1, Section 3). For context, hurricane-force winds begin at 74 mph, with Category 1 hurricanes ranging from 74 to 95 mph. The recorded winds on January 7 were well below this threshold and do not support false claims that the fire spread under hurricane-strength conditions or that it was unmanageable due to record-breaking wind speeds.

Winds Did Not Reach Historical Extremes
Across the full day, the maximum sustained wind of 40.8 mph and top gust of 60 mph remained below the National Weather Service’s criteria for a “High Wind Warning,” and were not historically extreme (Section 2, Section 4). In fact, even the Los Angeles weather station, which historically records weaker wind speeds than the areas of Palisades or Malibu, has documented stronger daily winds at least 87 times since 1947, including actual hurricane events with wind speeds exceeding 70 mph (Section 4).  Moreover, 89% of stations reported sustained maximum winds below 30 mph during the containment window, confirming that conditions were not uniformly severe or unmanageable (Section 3).

Weather Conditions Were Predicted in Advance
These winds were also forecasted days in advance. Between January 3 and January 7, multiple agencies, including the National Weather Service, Southern California Edison, and the City of Malibu, issued early warnings about strong Santa Ana winds, extreme fire danger, and preemptive power shut-offs (Section 6). This reinforces that the event was predictable and that emergency preparations had already been initiated.

Drought Conditions Were Normal for the Region
The preceding drought, while ongoing, also followed well-known Southern California climate cycles. The 266-day dry spell before the fire was neither record-breaking nor anomalous, and similar patterns of heavy rainfall followed by prolonged drought have occurred repeatedly in the last decade (Section 5). The false claim that vegetation growth from prior rainfall made this fire uniquely unmanageable is not supported by the well-documented behavior of Mediterranean ecosystems, especially given that, within just the past decade, the region has experienced both longer droughts and greater rainfall preceding dry periods.

Localized Wind Data Confirms Moderate Conditions
Finally, data from the 34 stations located within 10 miles of the fire origin showed that, during the 6-hour containment period, the average maximum sustained wind speed was just 16.77 mph, with average maximum gusts of 24.82 mph (Section 7). These stations are part of the 44 most valid sources analyzed in the report. These moderate readings further debunk false claims that weather conditions were extraordinary or that they excused failures in containment efforts.

Conclusion: Failure of Containment, Not an Unmanageable Event
In conclusion, the fire on January 7, 2025, occurred under weather and climate conditions that were not only historically common but also widely forecasted and manageable. Neither wind speeds nor drought conditions were extreme or record-breaking, and no evidence supports the notion that climate change played a direct role in this event. Instead, the only aspect of this fire that can be considered truly unprecedented was the failure to contain it, despite the availability of early warnings, known fire behavior patterns, and decades of historical precedent. Misrepresenting the fire as a product of uncontrollable or climate-driven forces undermines the accountability of fire management agencies and public safety planning, especially when the data makes clear that this was a foreseeable and manageable emergency.

Section 1: Cal Fire Reporting Timeline and Wind Conditions

Cal Fire’s reporting on January 7, 2025, indicates that the fire was initially considered manageable during the hours between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., a period characterized by moderate, historically typical wind conditions. This timeframe is central to evaluating fire management decisions and weather influences, as it encompasses the window in which the fire grew from what was reported as a small, controllable incident to a significantly larger event.

It is important to note that accurate fire size data was not available until the Fire Integrated Real-time Intelligence System (FIRIS) flight recorded its first measurements at 2:11 p.m. on January 7. Prior to that time, Cal Fire relied on estimates.

Cal Fire estimates:

• 10:30 a.m.: Cal Fire initially reported the fire at 10 acres.
• 11:06 a.m. to 11:26 a.m.: Four updates stated the fire remained at 10 acres.
• 11:31 a.m. to 2:31 p.m.: Fourteen reports cited the fire at 200 acres.

Both the 10-acre and 200-acre figures were guesses, not based on aerial measurements.

FIRIS data:

• 2:11 p.m.: FIRIS documented the fire at 771.57 acres.
• 3:17 p.m.: FIRIS measured the fire at 1,261.52 acres.

These verified measurements confirm the fire was already far larger than Cal Fire’s reported figures during the early hours, yet conditions remained moderate, with the highest sustained wind speed in Malibu recorded at 35.7 mph, well below thresholds typically linked to uncontrollable fire behavior.

After this period:

• 3:34 p.m. to 10:20 p.m.: Cal Fire issued 20 reports maintaining 1,262 acres.
• January 8, 12:29 a.m. to 11:11 a.m.: Eight updates placed the fire at 2,921 acres.
• January 8, 11:45 a.m.: Cal Fire reported growth to 11,802 acres.

This analysis centers on the 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. window on January 7, 2025, because it represents the critical period when the fire remained within manageable limits under normal weather conditions. Assertions that the fire was immediately uncontrollable or driven by "unprecedented" winds are not supported by any weather station record.

By contrast, the most significant growth occurred later, with Cal Fire reporting a jump from 2,921 acres to 11,802 acres on the morning of January 8, more than 24 hours after ignition, while containment remained at 0%. This distinction makes it clear why the early containment window should be considered separately from the broader timeline, as it shows both the opportunities for control and the actual influence of weather conditions on initial fire behavior.

Section 2: Wind Conditions Throughout the Day of January 7, 2025

A review of data from all 44 weather stations within roughly a 20-mile radius of the fire shows that winds on January 7 never approached “extreme” levels.

• Daily peak sustained wind: 40.8 mph at 10:45 p.m. PST, recorded at Station KCAMALIB52 (Malibu, 8.6 miles from the fire).
  • Since archived records begin in 1947, there have been 26 separate days with sustained winds ≥ 40.8 mph at the same or neighboring stations, so the January 7 maximum is well within the historical range.
• Peak gust: 60 mph (same station, 10:50 p.m.).
  • For context, hurricane-force winds start at 74 mph wind speed (Category 1: 74–95 mph). The strongest gust (not meeting the minimum requirement of wind speeds) on January 7 was 14 mph below that threshold.
• Typical station readings:
  • 35 of 44 stations (≈ 80 %) never rose above 30 mph sustained all day.
  • The Los Angeles International Airport station (KLAX) topped out at 29 mph sustained at 8:00 p.m.; there have been 453 days with equal or stronger winds at KLAX since 1947.

*See Anomalies section below. Four of the 48 stations were excluded due to anomalies: one station consistently reported wind speeds approximately twice as high as neighboring stations and was classified as an outlier, while three others reported wind speeds of zero throughout the day, indicating likely sensor malfunction or data loss.

Section 3: Wind Conditions During Period of Potential Containment (10:30 a.m. – 4:00 p.m.)

Cal Fire reported the fire’s growth from 10 acres to 200 acres during this six-hour interval, yet winds remained moderate and stable:

• Highest sustained wind: 35.7 mph at 12:15 p.m. from Station KCAMALIB52 (Malibu, 8.6 miles from fire).
  • Historical check: there have been 87 days since 1947 with sustained winds ≥ 35.7 mph, underscoring that such speeds are routine for the area.
• Highest gust: 42.9 mph at 11:55 a.m. from KCAMALIB158, a station at White Cloud Ranch in Santa Monica Mountains (14.4 miles from fire).
• Regional consistency:
  • 40 of 44 stations (≈ 91 %) recorded sustained winds ≤ 30 mph throughout the window, with little directional variability.
  • No station registered gusts that met or exceeded the National Weather Service “High Wind Warning” threshold (sustained ≥ 40 mph and gusts ≥ 58 mph).

Taken together, these observations confirm that fire-line conditions were well below hurricane force and comfortably within the historical norms for Southern California winter wind events. Claims that the Palisades Fire was driven by unprecedented or unmanageable winds are not supported by the meteorological record.

Section 4: Historical Context for Wind Speeds

Wind conditions on January 7, 2025, during the Palisades Fire, were within historical norms and do not support claims of extreme or unprecedented weather. Analysis from 44 nearby weather stations shows that, during the critical containment window between 10:30 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., the highest recorded wind speed came from Station KCAMALIB52 in Malibu. At 12:15 p.m., this station recorded sustained winds of 35.7 mph. Based on historical data dating back to 1947, there have been 87 days with wind speeds equal to or exceeding this value, demonstrating that such conditions are not rare.

Over the course of the entire day, the highest wind speed again came from the same Malibu station, peaking at 40.8 mph at 10:45 p.m. Even this daily maximum is not historically significant; there have been 26 days since 1947 with equal or higher wind speeds.

Additionally, Station KLAX, located at Los Angeles International Airport, recorded a maximum sustained wind speed of 29 mph at 8:00 p.m. on the same day. Since 1947, there have been 453 days with equal or greater wind speeds than this KLAX measurement.

For context, hurricane-force winds begin at 74 mph, with Category 1 hurricanes ranging from 74 to 95 mph. The wind speeds recorded on January 7, 2025, fell far below these thresholds and were consistent with typical seasonal wind events in the region. There is no meteorological basis for the assertion that the fire’s growth occurred under hurricane-strength or historically extreme wind conditions.

Section 5: Historical Context for Drought Occurrences

Drought conditions leading up to the Palisades Fire were neither exceptional nor record-breaking when compared to recent regional patterns. Based on 11 years of available precipitation data beginning March 26, 2014, multi-month droughts are common in the Los Angeles region, and the patterns of substantial rainfall followed by extended dry periods are well-documented.

The drought most cited in media reports began on April 16, 2024, and ended after the fire on January 26, 2025, lasting 285 days with only 0.16 inches of rain. However, the 180 days prior to the drought saw 19.44 inches of rainfall. While some attribute increased fire risk to vegetation growth from this rain, similar patterns have occurred frequently. For example, from March 31 to August 20, 2023, only 0.65 inches of rain fell over 142 days, following a 180-day period with 23.18 inches of precipitation. These sequences of high rainfall followed by drought are typical in Southern California’s Mediterranean climate and not inherently exceptional.

As of the day of the fire on January 7, 2025, the drought had lasted only 266 days, shorter than the 275-day drought ending January 9, 2018. Other comparable events include a 260-day drought ending December 27, 2020, and a 257-day drought ending November 20, 2019. The rainfall prior to the 2025 Palisades Fire drought also does not represent a record high, with higher totals documented in prior years.

Given the relatively short 11-year dataset, more extreme droughts likely occurred before records were made available for the region. Within this limited timeframe, however, neither the length nor the conditions of the drought preceding the Palisades Fire stand out as unusual. Assertions that the fire was driven by unprecedented drought or vegetation growth are not supported by the available data.

Section 6: Forecasts and Fire Risk Warnings

Media outlets have falsely claimed that the winds driving the Palisades Fire were “unforeseen.” In fact, between January 3 and January 7, 2025, the National Weather Service, Southern California Edison, and the City of Malibu issued at least five public alerts warning of an imminent Santa Ana wind event and “extreme” fire-weather conditions. Although the strongest sustained winds and gusts ultimately fell short of the 60- to 90-mph values mentioned in those forecasts, the advance warnings, covering power shut-offs, road closures, and Red Flag conditions, made it clear that elevated fire danger was anticipated well before the first flames appeared.

Key take-aways

• Each alert explicitly linked strong Santa Ana winds (forecast up to 80–90 mph in exposed areas) with extreme fire danger.
• Residents, utilities, and fire agencies had 72–96 hours of notice that critical fire-weather conditions would begin the morning of January 7.
• The power shut-off program, road closures, and activation plans for Malibu’s Emergency Operations Center were in place before the first smoke column was reported.

Consequently, claims that the wind event, and by extension the fire behavior, was “unforeseen” are contradicted by the documented sequence of official warnings issued days in advance.

Section 7: Weather Station Data and Anomalies

The analysis for this report draws on data from 44 of 62 regional weather stations, with 3 stations excluded due to anomalies that rendered their readings unreliable along with 14 additional which recorded no weather data for the day. All stations are provided and documented for further review with their address, zip code, and distance from the fire origin.

If these outlier stations were included in the analysis, the result would be a lower wind speed average due to these stations recording 0 mph wind speeds.

Anomalies Omitted

• KCALOSAN842, KCASANTA4733, KCASANTA630: These three stations reported zero wind and gust values throughout January 7, 2025, including during the critical fire spread period. Their inactivity suggests offline or non-functional status during data collection.
• KCAAGOUR101, KCACALAB72, KCAENCIN812, KCALOSAN1130, KCAMALIB110, KCAMALIB140, KCAMALIB147, KCAMALIB162, KCAPACIF132, KCAPACIF208, KCAPACIF227, KCAPACIF320, KCAPACIF367, KCATOPAN31: There fourteen stations reported no weather activity on January 7, 2025.

Wind Conditions During the Manageable Window

While data from all 44 valid stations were reviewed, special attention should be given to the 34 stations located within 10 miles of the fire origin to assess conditions during the most critical window, from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., when Cal Fire still reported the blaze as manageable.

Across these 34 stations, the average maximum sustained wind speed during this timeframe was 16.77 mph, and the average maximum wind gust was 24.82 mph. The average maximum values are calculated by the mean of each station’s highest recorded wind speed and gust between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. on January 7, 2025. Average maximum should not be confused with the daily average which equates to only 6.2 mph average wind speed and 10.2 mph average wind gust for the 34 weather stations located within 10 miles of the fire origin. Maximum average is calculated from the maximum values throughout the time period.

These values fall well within the range of normal seasonal variation and provide clear evidence that, during the early hours of the fire, weather conditions were moderate and did not reflect the extreme or uncontrollable forces some later claimed.

Distance from Fire:
The weather station distance in miles from the origin of the fire.

Distance from KCATOPAN8:
The weather station distance from 69 Bravo Helistop where high winds were reported.

Distance from KLAX:
The weather station distance from the LAX station with records dating back to 1947.

Anomaly:
Excluded from reports due to descriptions above.

Appendix B: Wind Calculations

For all reports and data, we consistently use maximum values. Specifically, for each 15-minute interval, the greatest "Wind Gust High" value observed during that time is selected to represent the interval. This approach significantly streamlines the organization of data gathered from numerous sources.

Please note that the 'Gust' displayed on the source page corresponds to the 'Wind Gust Avg' from the weather.com API call. While the API provides more detailed information, including 'Wind Gust High,' 'Wind Gust Low,' and 'Wind Gust Avg,' only 'Gust' is visible on the source page. However, the complete dataset is accessible through the page's source code and directly via the weather.com API.

Source page example shown:
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAMALIB158/table/2025-01-07/2025-01-07/daily

Daily Wind Gust Analysis

In the raw data seen below, the highest values are identified within each 15 minute interval.

Maximum High Wind Gust Recorded

As seen in the table below, the highest values from each time period closest to the 15 minute interval are used for analysis.

Revisions

September 24, 2025

• Revised "Section 1: Cal Fire Reporting Timeline and Wind Conditions" to distinguish Fire Integrated Real-time Intelligence System (FIRIS) accurate acre data from estimates recorded by Cal Fire

July 18, 2025

• Added "Section 8: LACoFD 69 Bravo - Station KCATOPAN8 (No Hurricane)"
• Added "Section 9: Fire Environment Management System (FEMS) Stations (No Hurricane)"

June 3, 2025

• Prepended "Wind" to title to make clear this is the first of many reports

June 1, 2025

• Corrected all weather station names
• Corrected all weather station lat and lng
• Recalculated distances based on correct lat and lng
• Updated report for all station mile distances

May 30, 2025

• Added height to stations for "Interactive Wind Speed and Gust Map"

May 28, 2025

• Included "Interactive Wind Speed and Gust Map"

May 25, 2025

• Initial report launch

Credit

Researched and Written by Michael Kureth